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Have 03 Crew w/Powerdyne SC. When slowing down or downshifting rapidly it throws a ses lite w/code P0101
Mass or Volume Air Flow Circuit Range/Performance Problem

Does this mean possible MAF sensor problem???
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DTC P0101
Circuit Description

The mass air flow (MAF) sensor is an air flow meter that measures the amount of air entering the engine. The powertrain control module (PCM) uses the MAF sensor signal to provide the correct fuel delivery for all engine speeds and loads. A small quantity of air entering the engine indicates a deceleration or idle condition. A large quantity of air entering the engine indicates an acceleration or high load condition. The MAF sensor has the following circuits:

* An ignition 1 voltage circuit
* A ground circuit
* A signal circuit

The PCM applies a voltage to the sensor on the signal circuit. The sensor uses the voltage to produce a frequency based on the inlet air flow through the sensor bore. The frequency varies within a range of near 2,000 Hertz at idle to near 10,000 Hertz at maximum engine load. The PCM uses the following sensor inputs to calculate a predicted MAF value:

* The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor
* The intake air temperature (IAT) sensor
* The engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor
* The engine speed (RPM)

The PCM compares the actual MAF sensor frequency signal to the predicted MAF value. This comparison will determine if the signal is stuck based on a lack of variation, or is too low or too high for a given operating condition. If the PCM detects the actual MAF sensor frequency signal is not within a predetermined range of the calculated MAF value DTC P0101 sets.
Conditions for Running the DTC

* DTCs P0102, P0103, P0106, P0107, P0108, P0121, P0122, P0123, P0442, P0443, P0446, P0449, P0455, P0496 are not set.
* The engine is cranking or running.
* The ignition 1 signal is between 11-18 volts.
* The throttle position (TP) sensor angle is less than 95 percent.
* The change in the TP sensor angle is less than 5 percent.
* The MAP sensor is less than 80 kPa.
* The change in the MAP sensor is less than 3 kPa.
* The above conditions are met for 1.5 seconds.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

The PCM detects that the actual MAF sensor frequency signal is not within a predetermined range of the calculated MAF value for more than 4 seconds.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets

* The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails.
* The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

* The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
* A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.
* A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.
* Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool.

Diagnostic Aids

* Inspect the harness of the MAF sensor to verify that it is not routed too close to the following components:
o The secondary ignition wires or coils
o Any solenoids
o Any relays
o Any motors
* A low minimum air rate through the sensor bore at idle or during deceleration may cause this DTC to set. Inspect for any vacuum leak downstream of the MAF sensor.
* Inspect for any contamination or debris on the sensing elements of the MAF sensor.
* Inspect the air induction system for any water intrusion. Any water that reaches the MAF sensor will skew the sensor and may cause this DTC to set.
* A wide open throttle acceleration from a stop should cause the MAF sensor parameter on the scan tool to increase rapidly. This increase should be from 3-10 g/s at idle to 150 g/s or more at the time of the 1-2 shift. If the increase is not observed, inspect for a restriction in the induction system or the exhaust system.
* Inspect for a skewed or stuck ECT sensor.
* A high resistance of 15 ohms or more on the ignition 1 voltage circuit may cause this DTC to set. A high resistance may cause a driveability concern before this DTC sets.
* Inspect for a skewed or stuck TP sensor.
* The barometric pressure that is used to calculate the predicted mass air flow value is initially based on the MAP sensor at key ON. When the engine is running the BARO value is continually updated near wide open throttle. A skewed MAP sensor will cause the calculated mass air flow value to be inaccurate and may result in a no start condition. The value shown for the MAP sensor parameter varies with the altitude. With the ignition ON and the engine OFF, 101 kPa is the approximate value near sea level. This value will decrease by approximately 3 kPa for every 305 meters (1,000 feet) of altitude.
* A high resistance on the 5-volt reference circuit of the MAP sensor may cause this DTC to set.
* A high resistance on the low reference circuit of the MAP sensor may cause this DTC to set.
* If the condition is intermittent, refer to Intermittent Conditions.
Test Description

The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

5. This step will determine if the MAP sensor pressure is within the proper range for a given altitude.
6. This step will determine if the MAP sensor voltage is within the proper range at idle.
7.This step will determine if the MAP sensor responds properly to the change in manifold pressure.
8.This step will determine if the TP sensor is operating properly.
9.This step will determine if any mechanical faults have caused this DTC to set.
10.This voltage drop test will determine if high resistance has caused this DTC to set.

Step Action Values Yes No

Schematic Reference: Engine Controls Schematics

Connector End View Reference: Engine Controls Connector End Views or Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector End Views

1 Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?
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Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

2 Attempt to start the engine.
Does the engine start?
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Go to Step 3
Go to Step 5

3 Observe the Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Information with the scan tool.

Does the scan tool display any other DTCs set?
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Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
Go to Step 4

4 1. Observe the Freeze Frame/Failure Records for this DTC.
2. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
3. Start the engine.
4. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records.

Did the DTC fail this ignition?
--
Go to Step 5
Go to Diagnostic Aids

5 Important:

The Altitude vs. Barometric Pressure table indicates a pressure range for a given altitude under normal weather conditions. Weather conditions consisting of very low or very high barometric pressure and/or temperature may cause a reading to be slightly out of range.

1. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
2. Observe the MAP sensor kPa parameter with a scan tool.
3. The MAP sensor pressure should be within the specified range for your altitude. Refer to Altitude vs Barometric Pressure .

Is the MAP sensor pressure within the specified range as indicated on the Altitude vs. Barometric Pressure table?
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Go to Step 6
Go to DTC P0106

6 1. Start the engine.
2. Turn OFF all accessories.
3. Allow the engine to reach operating temperature.
4. Observe the MAP sensor parameter with a scan tool .

Is the MAP sensor parameter within the specified range? 0.8-2.0 V

Go to Step 7
Go to DTC P0106

7 1. Idle the engine.
2. Observe the MAP sensor parameter with a scan tool.
3. Increase the engine speed slowly to 3,000 RPM and then back to idle.

Does the MAP sensor parameter change smoothly and gradually through the specified range of the test?
--
Go to Step 8
Go to DTC P0106

8 1. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
3. Observe the TP sensor parameter at closed throttle with a scan tool.
4. Depress the accelerator pedal completely.
5. Observe the TP sensor parameter at wide open throttle with a scan tool.

Does the TP sensor parameter change from the first value to the second value? 0-100%

Go to Step 9
Go to DTC P0121

9 1. Turn OFF the ignition.
2. Inspect for the following conditions:
* A restricted or collapsed air intake duct
* A misaligned air intake duct
* A dirty or deteriorating air filter element
* Any objects blocking the air inlet screen of the MAF sensor
* Any contamination or debris on the sensing elements of the MAF sensor
* Any water intrusion in the induction system
* Any vacuum leak downstream of the MAF sensor
* Any type of restriction in the exhaust system. Refer to Restricted Exhaust in Engine Exhaust.

Did you find and correct the condition?
--

Go to Step 14
Go to Step 10

10 1. Disconnect the harness connector of the MAF sensor.
2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
3. Connect a test lamp between the ignition 1 voltage circuit of the MAF sensor and a good ground. Refer to Circuit Testing in Wiring Systems.
4. Connect a DMM to the probe of the test lamp and a good ground. Refer to Measuring Voltage Drop in Wiring Systems.

Is the voltage within 0.50 volts of the specified value? B +

Go to Step 11
Go to Step 12

11 Test for an intermittent and for a poor connection at the MAF sensor. Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?
--

Go to Step 14
Go to Step 13

12Repair the high resistance in the ignition 1 voltage circuit of the MAF sensor. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you complete the repair?
--

Go to Step 14
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13 Replace the MAF sensor. Refer to Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?
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Go to Step 14
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14 1. Clear the DTCs with a scan tool.
2. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
3. Start the engine.
4. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records.

Did the DTC fail this ignition?
--
Go to Step 2
Go to Step 15

15 Observe the Capture Info with a scan tool.

Are there any DTCs that have not been diagnosed?
--
Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List

System OK
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I'd check all the connections for any leakage first. Then look for debris on the sensor wires. Follow the tests in the flow chart and hope it is either simple fix, or one of the less expensive sensors involved ;)

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Intermittent Conditions

Checks Action

DEFINITION: The problem may or may not turn ON the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) or store a diagnostic trouble code (DTC).

Preliminary Checks

Refer to Symptoms - Engine Controls .

Damaged Electrical Connections or Wiring

Carefully reform all the connector terminals in the problem circuit in order to ensure the proper contact tension. If necessary, replace all the connector terminals in the problem circuit in order to ensure the proper contact tension. Refer to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

An intermittent may be caused by a poor connection, rubbed through wire insulation, or a broken wire inside the insulation.

Thoroughly check any circuitry that is suspected of causing the intermittent complaint. Refer to Testing for Intermittent and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems.

If a repair is necessary, refer to Wiring Repairs or Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Road Test

If a visual and physical check does not locate the cause of the problem, drive the vehicle with a DMM connected to a suspected circuit or use a scan tool.

When the problem occurs, an abnormal voltage or scan reading indicates the problem may be in that circuit.

Intermittent Components

The following components can cause an intermittent:

* A defective relay, control module driven solenoid, or a switch that can cause an electrical system interference -- Normally, the problem will occur when the defective component is operating.
* The improper installation of electrical devices, such as lights, 2-way radios, electric motors, etc.

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HenryJ
Thanks a million!!!!!! Didn't expect such a detailed explaination where did you get this??
GM service manual???
I will trouble shoot this tomorrow on my day off, thanks for all the help
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snowsurfer wrote:HenryJ
Thanks a million!!!!!! Didn't expect such a detailed explaination where did you get this??
GM service manual???
I will trouble shoot this tomorrow on my day off, thanks for all the help
Aloha
Yes, Genuine 2003 GM Service manual.
One of our members gave us the "in" on getting this info ;) There were some that were trying to get it all on disc for us,I'd hate to lose it all! I'll have to "light a fire" under them again :roll: Good luck :thumb:

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How do you reset the light if you want to change your own oil? :?:
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melloyellow wrote:How do you reset the light if you want to change your own oil? :?:
I wasn't aware that the newer crews set a oil change light :?:
On the full size you turn the ignition to the on position, depress the accellerator pedal three times and wait for the light to flash. That resets the oil change interval.
To reset the SES light without the aid of a scan tool, you can disconnect the battery for between 30 sec. to 3 min. , this will clear the light, re-learn the start run sequence, etc.
If you have a lit SES , it would be a good idea to have it checked, most "Chain" Autoparts stores will scan for you free of charge.

If you are passing by I can plug the AutoXray into it and read the DTC. ;) :lol:

If you do indeed have an oil change reminder it is news to me :D

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HenryJ wrote:
snowsurfer wrote:HenryJ
Thanks a million!!!!!! Didn't expect such a detailed explaination where did you get this??
GM service manual???
I will trouble shoot this tomorrow on my day off, thanks for all the help
Aloha
Yes, Genuine 2003 GM Service manual.
One of our members gave us the "in" on getting this info ;) There were some that were trying to get it all on disc for us,I'd hate to lose it all! I'll have to "light a fire" under them again :roll: Good luck :thumb:
I tried(and tried and tried) but it did not work. :( Sorry.

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I wish we con take advantage of the GM site before it closes down....
Too bad we can download it...I tried with the Teleport program but it didn't work but then again I'm no computer genius!!!!
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HenryJ wrote:
melloyellow wrote:How do you reset the light if you want to change your own oil? :?:
I wasn't aware that the newer crews set a oil change light :?:
On the full size you turn the ignition to the on position, depress the accellerator pedal three times and wait for the light to flash. That resets the oil change interval.
To reset the SES light without the aid of a scan tool, you can disconnect the battery for between 30 sec. to 3 min. , this will clear the light, re-learn the start run sequence, etc.
If you have a lit SES , it would be a good idea to have it checked, most "Chain" Autoparts stores will scan for you free of charge.

If you are passing by I can plug the AutoXray into it and read the DTC. ;) :lol:

If you do indeed have an oil change reminder it is news to me :D
Turns out it was a bad gas cap. No vacuum possible.
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my 03 doesnt throw an ses light for an oil change :?
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