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What is flaming?

Postby Steve2003 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:42 pm

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Hj wrote: Good luck with selling your tires, and don't worry about flaming here.


What does flaming mean? :shrug:

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Postby jeff024 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:50 am

I wondered that myself but didnt wanna be the 1 to ask :)
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Postby F9K9 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:29 am

In other forums people make "mean" fun of people and try to belittle them.
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Postby barch97 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:31 am

Steve2003 wrote:
Hj wrote: Good luck with selling your tires, and don't worry about flaming here.


What does flaming mean? :shrug:

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what a stoopit question, n00b





^ flaming ^
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Postby HenryJ » Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:43 am

I don't know where the term originated. I kind of think of it as posting something that makes the recipient red in the face mad. Usually these remarks are personal in nature and tend to escalate.

It is really nice that most here are unfamiliar with the term. I hope to keep it that way :mg:

On the internet it is way too easy to take a comment wrong. Emoticons / Smilies help somewhat. A wink , laugh or smile to show the comment was in jest is an example.

Our group , so far, has been pretty mature and not gone to the level of personal attacks. Part of that is the good nature of the people who frequent here. The other part is that the administrator and moderators have agreed to delete such posts without question. We try to head off any conflicts if possible.
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Postby Pauleo » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:19 am

HenryJ wrote:...I have never had to suspend or ban a member of this forum...


You mean to tell me that you haven't at least CONSIDERED Barch????? :?: :!:


^ more flaming ^


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Postby F9K9 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:53 am

Pauleo wrote:
HenryJ wrote:...I have never had to suspend or ban a member of this forum...


You mean to tell me that you haven't at least CONSIDERED Barch????? :?: :!:


^ more flaming ^


:lol:


The Barchster does not FLAME, he just stirs the pot :wink:

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Postby Steve2003 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:23 pm

barch97 wrote:
Steve2003 wrote:
Hj wrote: Good luck with selling your tires, and don't worry about flaming here.


What does flaming mean? :shrug:

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what a stoopit question, n00b





^ flaming ^


Ok! now I get it. :D Thanks you ugly jerk! :wink: Wow! flaming is fun :lol: :wink:
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Postby Walt » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:34 am

I do know of another definition of "flaming" as described by Bill Engval, but it's considered more of an adjective than a verb :lol:
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Postby barch97 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:45 am

The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

"Don't work too hard," wrote a colleague in an e-mail today. Was she sincere or sarcastic? I think I know (sarcastic), but I'm probably wrong.

According to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I've only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they've correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.

"That's how flame wars get started," says psychologist Nicholas Epley of the University of Chicago, who conducted the research with Justin Kruger of New York University. "People in our study were convinced they've accurately understood the tone of an e-mail message when in fact their odds are no better than chance," says Epley.

The researchers took 30 pairs of undergraduate students and gave each one a list of 20 statements about topics like campus food or the weather. Assuming either a serious or sarcastic tone, one member of each pair e-mailed the statements to his or her partner. The partners then guessed the intended tone and indicated how confident they were in their answers.

Those who sent the messages predicted that nearly 80 percent of the time their partners would correctly interpret the tone. In fact the recipients got it right just over 50 percent of the time.

"People often think the tone or emotion in their messages is obvious because they 'hear' the tone they intend in their head as they write," Epley explains.

At the same time, those reading messages unconsciously interpret them based on their current mood, stereotypes and expectations. Despite this, the research subjects thought they accurately interpreted the messages nine out of 10 times.

The reason for this is egocentrism, or the difficulty some people have detaching themselves from their own perspective, says Epley. In other words, people aren't that good at imagining how a message might be understood from another person's perspective.

"E-mail is very easy to misinterpret, which not only triggers flame wars but lots of litigation," says Nancy Flynn, executive director of the e-Policy Institute and author of guidebooks E-Mail Rules and Instant Messaging Rules. Many companies battle workplace lawsuits triggered by employee e-mail, according to Flynn.

People write absolutely, incredibly stupid things in company e-mails," said Flynn.
"Some people are like Slinkies. Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs."
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Postby a2b » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:26 am

for those of you that want to experience flaming first hand, go to http://pirate4x4.com/forum then go to the toy section and ask about which truck has the biggest fender wells. so that way, you know which one to buy so you can put the biggest tires on. :lol:
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Postby HenryJ » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:40 am

...According to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I've only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they've correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.
I wonder if emoticons, or smilies were used? Probably not since they are not as prevalent in email.
The use of smilies to portray emotion may help a little. It is hard to gauge the intent of the conversation when you can not read the face of the other.

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Postby Walt » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:26 am

HenryJ wrote:
...According to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I've only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they've correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.
I wonder if emoticons, or smilies were used? Probably not since they are not as prevalent in email.
The use of smilies to portray emotion may help a little. It is hard to gauge the intent of the conversation when you can not read the face of the other.


I agree 100%. Sometimes what we reply with here on the forum could easily be misread as something negative if it weren't for our little smiley friends :D
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Postby Rusty » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:42 am

wamason wrote:
HenryJ wrote:
...According to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I've only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they've correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.
I wonder if emoticons, or smilies were used? Probably not since they are not as prevalent in email.
The use of smilies to portray emotion may help a little. It is hard to gauge the intent of the conversation when you can not read the face of the other.


I agree 100%. Sometimes what we reply with here on the forum could easily be misread as something negative if it weren't for our little smiley friends :D


And, believe it or not, sometimes smilies can be misused as well.

I am very familiar with the problem of people misinterpreting my posts and emails because I don't always word things the way I mean them and I've sometimes used smilies wrong too, I guess what I think a smiley means isn't always how others see them. Also, it doesn't help to have a really strange sense of humor. Many times I've managed to really tick people off and I meant no harm whatsoever. This is the biggest reason why I seldom post anymore.
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Postby Steve2003 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:39 pm

I never knew what the word "flaming" meant in internet terms but after reading these posts flaming goes on in everyday life. In the business I work in my bosses flame all the time, some people can take it and some can't and they quit. Some times I don't know if they are serious or just kidding. I see fellow employee's flaming all the time and my customers flame. The customers are the hardest one's to deal with, most of them make a fourth of what I make and I have to put up with their BS. I think people that flame have a self esteem problem, they are insecure with who they are so they try to put other people down to try and build themselves up. This is IMHO.


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Postby F9K9 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:05 pm

Steve2003 wrote:............I think people that flame have a self esteem problem, they are insecure with who they are so they try to put other people down to try and build themselves up. This is IMHO.


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In a large percentage of the time, I think you have hit the nail squarely on the headImage
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Postby barch97 » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:18 am

I think it's more of a group dynamic thing. It's hazing, a right of passage, everyone makes mistakes in the beginning, that's how we learn. "Flaming" is for the most part good natured and well meaning advice/guidance combined with often times humorous yet mildly offensive remarks included to drive a point home. But, as with any form of hazing, people get carried away and frequently take things further than they should. When one person points out a mistake in a sarcastic manner, it's easily absorbed and learned from. When every person that comes along after piles on another crack... well, that's a little different.

I think the point that I'm failing to make here and was somewhat apparent in the article I posted is that if you read something on the internet that could be taken more than one way and one of those ways offends you, it was most likely meant the other way.
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Postby HenryJ » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:28 am

I think another problem is our tendancy to mimick sharks or wolves. Once something like this starts, it is like the smell of blood. Everyone gathers to join in the feeding frenzy.

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Postby Walt » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:06 am

HenryJ wrote:I think another problem is our tendancy to mimick sharks or wolves. Once something like this starts, it is like the smell of blood. Everyone gathers to join in the feeding frenzy.


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